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Open Board / Re: Grero, continued
« Last post by XPlover on December 22, 2016, 05:14:44 AM »
Must get a look at that book. Been meaning to access this one too -- remember when it came out

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexualities:_A_Study_of_Diversity_Among_Men_and_Women

You might want to try some more formal video commentaries -- a simple but attractive set done up in your basement or whatever, wearing what we used to call school clothes/. Maybe a shirt and tie. I dig your backyard delivery and understand your earthy bluntness, but others might not. Your problem is that most gays are not into independent thought, or thought period. They don't want history or meaty statistics, they just want to party, get laid and seize more political/legal ground for themselves regardless what it costs anybody else. You challenge their paradigms, which is desperately needed.

Bring in some variety. Find out if author Murray would like to be interviewed -- etc. Just a few suggestions.
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Open Board / Re: Grero, continued
« Last post by andkon on December 19, 2016, 03:37:25 AM »
Interesting stuff... I didn't research much into Asia, though Homosexualities by Stephen O. Murray probably has some interesting chapters on Japan and China.

As far as forum (in)activity goes, that's unfortunate. There hasn't been that much interest in the book and the few videos I put up.
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Open Board / Re: How my mother's fanatical views tore us apart
« Last post by andkon on December 19, 2016, 03:33:38 AM »
Thanks! Oh, and we have a new post here.
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Open Board / Grero, continued
« Last post by XPlover on December 02, 2016, 01:50:00 AM »
How about a thread further documenting the normalcy, social acceptance and ubiquity of homosexuality, in history and otherwise?

Anybody follow Listverse? The free email subscription brings you 3 daily lists of 10 wild facts about the world around us, much of it historical, with illustrations. It's sprinkled with considerable Grero material. The latest:

http://listverse.com/2016/12/01/10-facts-about-samurai-that-movies-usually-leave-out/
In feudal Japan, nothing made a man more of a sissy than spending a whole night sleeping with beautiful women.

Sex with women, the samurai believed, had a feminizing effect that weakened a man’s mind and body. The samurai married because they needed to further the family line, but they didn’t want to get carried away with it. If a samurai was caught kissing his wife in public, he was called a sissy.

That didn’t mean the samurai were celibate. Sex with women was a little fruity, but sex with men was incredibly macho. Homosexual sex, the samurai believed, just made you tougher than ever.


The page reports a lot of awful stuff about the samurai, but the above info is pure gold. Exactly how established was homosexuality in uniform around the ancient world? It's a 25-hour flight from Greece, ancient home of the Sacred Band, to Tokyo :-)

A shame this Forum is inactive. Let's change that!
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Open Board / Re: How my mother's fanatical views tore us apart
« Last post by XPlover on December 02, 2016, 01:34:13 AM »
Wow, this is good! You're busting one of the most disgustingly overrated icons of leftism. We must destroy political correctness. You do flog it admirably here and there in the book, whether that was the intention or not, besides building a powerful case for Grero.

Alice Walker is a typical media-anointed black supremacist Judas goat. I love it when such phoneys' children repudiate them like William Murray, son of Madalyn Murray O'Hair.
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Open Board / Re: Introduction
« Last post by Scott on January 31, 2015, 07:15:04 PM »
The other question is: if not religion, where does the hatred from men in group #2 come from? If same-sex sex was socially-acceptable, those men could easily have sex thus no frustration and lashing out. It's culture that prohibits that and most of the anti-same-sex-sex has traditionally come from Christianity in the West.

Hey Andkon. I'd like to take a crack at answering that, if you don't mind.

It's true that the Romans didn't care if a guy liked to f*ck other guys. They'd mock him, though, if he was the one taking it.

Christianity is based on the Golden Rule (Matt. 7:12, Rom. 9:8-10, 1 John 4:21, etc.): Do unto others as you'd have them do unto you. If Romans didn't want some other guy putting it up *their* ass, then they shouldn't put it up another guy's either. The Church just forbade men from doing what they'd never in a million years let another man do to them. Pretty straight-forward logic (npi).

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Open Board / Re: Introduction
« Last post by Johan on January 20, 2015, 09:25:28 AM »
1. "We" I am referring to greros. I am masculine. The degree I'm referring to is how we exhibit our maleness in a social setting. There are the Arnold Schwarzneggars, the Brad Pitts, the Rock Hudsons, the Anderson Coopers, to name a few famous personalities I can think of. All of these have a masculine bearing but are different.

Thanks for your input!

I never see straight men say "I am masculine". You only see gay guys saying that. If I do, they usually don't use those words.

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Open Board / Re: Greros, gays, and "others" positive contributions to the World
« Last post by Johan on January 20, 2015, 09:20:57 AM »
Just exclusive heterosexuality. No one claims that most are homosexual, the split is more like 95-5 today.

So if you find an area with a majority that's bisexual, heterosexuality cannot really be exclusive for most innately. But that doesn't speak to the origins (biological or cultural) of exclusive same-sex attractions.

Huh? I don't quite get it.
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Open Board / Re: Now this is my idea of a Guero!
« Last post by vincentdigrero on January 18, 2015, 06:12:09 AM »
Is this it? http://encinoman.wikia.com/wiki/Cro-magnon_man

Yes,  that's the foto I was referring to

Maybe it's late, but I don't get it...

Andkon, my point was that gueros have always been around. I thought the photo with the instructor pointing to an artist's concept of a Cro-magnon man is my kind of guy.

Peace.
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Open Board / Re: Greros, gays, and "others" positive contributions to the World
« Last post by andkon on January 17, 2015, 10:39:40 PM »
It doesn't really matter. If you have a single area with a large bisexual potential, that shows that exclusive heterosexuality is not really genetic/hormonal/innate or anything but cultural.
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Exclusive heterosexuality or exclusive monosexuality?

Just exclusive heterosexuality. No one claims that most are homosexual, the split is more like 95-5 today. So if you find an area with a majority that's bisexual, heterosexuality cannot really be exclusive for most innately. But that doesn't speak to the origins (biological or cultural) of exclusive same-sex attractions.
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