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Open Board / Re: My life is meaningful, fulfilling and happy -- regardless
« Last post by andkon on January 14, 2015, 12:07:32 PM »
Sorry to hear about family issues. It's a shame people closest to us can sometimes be the cruelest. Feel free to write about these or other matters here!
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Open Board / Re: Greros, gays, and "others" positive contributions to the World
« Last post by andkon on January 14, 2015, 11:58:03 AM »
1.Given that probably most males in ancient Greece and Roman engaged in same sex sex, that's not in dispute, at least on this site. :-)


2.I've heard about this movie, so now I'll have to see it for sure.

1.Are you 100% sure this was the case throughout Ancient Greece? Or not just its city states?

It doesn't really matter. If you have a single area with a large bisexual potential, that shows that exclusive heterosexuality is not really genetic/hormonal/innate or anything but cultural.

Also, vincentdigrero's post shows " Last Edit: Today at 11:55:15 AM by andkon " I fixed a quote tag that wasn't working right.
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Open Board / Re: Introduction
« Last post by vincentdigrero on January 13, 2015, 10:17:05 AM »
There's no need for greros to tone it down. We are masculine depending on the degree. Of course, there are heterosexuals out there who have little class. Those who hate the most are they ones who want the male-to-male encounter the most, even if it's just hanging out with the guys for a few brews.

This is a little story: once I knew a southern man who had been in construction all of this life. He was about 45 years old and loved buying drinks for me and talking. He knew the story on me, but he liked me for me. I liked him for him. I'm sure that in the past he had dabbled a bit with other men sexually, but our friendship had to do with mutual respect and admiration. Thanks for your input, Johan.
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Open Board / Re: Greros, gays, and "others" positive contributions to the World
« Last post by vincentdigrero on January 13, 2015, 09:59:23 AM »


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Are you 100% sure this was the case throughout Ancient Greece? Or not just its city states?


Johan, back then just as it is today, the greros and gays were everywhere. The city-states probably contained more because of sheer number. Just my opinion
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Open Board / Re: Johnny Rapid Interviews Rocco Reed
« Last post by Johan on January 13, 2015, 09:35:45 AM »
So andkon, is Rocco Reed a Grero then?

Well, he's masculine and has sex with other often masculine men so YES :-)

What do you mean by masculine?

He did for a short while have sex with "masculine". Did you see his for MEN.com?
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Open Board / Re: Greros, gays, and "others" positive contributions to the World
« Last post by Johan on January 13, 2015, 09:34:28 AM »
1.Given that probably most males in ancient Greece and Roman engaged in same sex sex, that's not in dispute, at least on this site. :-)


2.I've heard about this movie, so now I'll have to see it for sure.

1.Are you 100% sure this was the case throughout Ancient Greece? Or not just its city states?

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Open Board / Re: Introduction
« Last post by Johan on January 13, 2015, 09:31:09 AM »
"Like begats like. I have spent some time in straight, blue collar watering holes in my life and I can certainly attest to the fact that it brings out more masculinity."


Not completely. If you were in a homophobic setting or any setting where being yourself(gay) was discouraged or could get you into trouble, of course one would tone it down and assimilate.
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Open Board / Re: My life is meaningful, fulfilling and happy -- regardless
« Last post by vincentdigrero on January 12, 2015, 04:12:40 PM »
I would like to clarify my statement in the 2nd paragraph -- "same sex sex participants" should be "same sex friends"

I'm not looking for sexual activity at this stage in my life. Thanks.
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Open Board / My life is meaningful, fulfilling and happy -- regardless
« Last post by vincentdigrero on January 10, 2015, 06:19:57 AM »
I don't know exactly if any particular postings are expected on this forum, so I will post with what is on my mind from time to time. I am older, almost 70 years old, and this is a very contented period of my life. In spite of the fact that my younger days contained a lot of turmoil, unhappiness, and persecution, I think it turned out pretty well for me.

Most of my friends are heterosexual and they all know my story. Family members as well. It would be nice to have a few same sex sex participants in my life as well. I do know two close grero friends. For family, I have a couple of close, lovely nieces. There are others in the family who continually challenge me with their unenlightened views of homosexuality.

These days I frankly do not have time to concern myself with those who are in the persecution mode. I know that I can do good works and help make other peoples lives in my community better. My community includes all and that is what contributes the most to my well-being.

Why couldn't we make this forum a place to be supportive for those who are wanting some camaraderie?

Thank you andkon for doing such a great job!
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Open Board / Re: Greros, gays, and "others" positive contributions to the World
« Last post by andkon on January 09, 2015, 02:26:54 PM »
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In my opinion, homosexuals whether greros or gays have been quietly making significant contributions to all societies.

Given that probably most males in ancient Greece and Roman engaged in same sex sex, that's not in dispute, at least on this site. :-)

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I don't know when the hatred all started with the early Christians or Catholic church, but I think somewhere in the Middle Ages.

I did not include this in the book, but when states become bigger and richer, during the Middle Ages, there was more prosecution of same-sex sex. Before then, everything was a lot more decentralized so you couldn't have a single ruler issuing this and that. With that said, persecution of same-sex sex began right after Christians took over Rome, especially by Theodosius after 390. That's in Chapter 10: http://grero.com/#_Toc347564552


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Recently, I saw the movie, "The Imitation Game" and found it very interesting. A great, homosexual mind invented the computer, so to speak. My computer is acting up a bit so I will close this post for now. Peace to all!

I've heard about this movie, so now I'll have to see it for sure.
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