UK diver Tom Daley

[Johan]

So! He has been in the news a lot this week. He made a video in which he reveals that he's in a relationship with a guy. He doesn't identify himself as gay or bisexual, but he does say that he still fancies girls.


He first shot to fame in 2008 when he took part in Olympics. Part of his appeal is from his looks.


Anyway, here's the video :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJwJnoB9EKw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJwJnoB9EKw

[Johan]

Not too long ago, he was the Sexiest Man by UK gay magazine Attitude.


I didn't think Tom Daley was into guys.

[andkon]

I didn't think Tom Daley was into guys.

Well, why not? He's a man, right? :-)

[Johan]

Well, why not? He's a man, right? :-)

What do you mean?

[andkon]

Check the frontpage:

Of the first twenty Roman emperors,
eighteen (90%) had male lovers.
You're not straight either.

So it shouldn't be a surprise when anyone comes out.

[Johan]

Check the frontpage:

Of the first twenty Roman emperors,
eighteen (90%) had male lovers.
You're not straight either.

So it shouldn't be a surprise when anyone comes out.

I don't think THAT was universal in the ancient past.

And really, you need to change that. Not the fact about Roman emperors, but about most or all men secretly wanting or latently having gay desires.

[Siya]

Johan, that idea was very well defended in the book.  That was its point - that "grero" is a slap in the face of all that people want to believe.  "I'm gay" is individual; grero is global

[Johan]

"I'm gay" is individual; grero is global

Individual??

[andkon]

Johan, that idea was very well defended in the book.  That was its point - that "grero" is a slap in the face of all that people want to believe.  "I'm gay" is individual; grero is global

Yes, gay tells us about the individual. Grero is to look at least to the past and say, "This many people cannot possibly be exclusively heterosexual now."

[Johan]

andkon, I wish I could talk to you about this one on one.


Oh!

I CAN'T post in that Ian Thorpe thread! The reply button isn't there! Why is that?

[andkon]

andkon, I wish I could talk to you about this one on one.


Oh!

I CAN'T post in that Ian Thorpe thread! The reply button isn't there! Why is that?

In the Q/A forum, anyone can start a thread but only I and the original poster can respond. Feel free to start a new thread here on Ian Thorpe, or ask me below in this thread.

[Johan]

In the Q/A forum, anyone can start a thread but only I and the original poster can respond. Feel free to start a new thread here on Ian Thorpe, or ask me below in this thread.

That's such a waste!

I was going to add the link to his full interview with Michael Parkinson.

In it, he does go on to say that he IS gay.