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#41

Open Board / Re: In whose company do you fe...

Last post by andkon - January 17, 2015, 10:36:29 PM

I'm not a psychologist, but I'm wondering if my attraction to men in general stems from the fact that I didn't feel very loved by my father. Has any research been done on this?

What men are you most comfortable with?

The science or psychology of sexual orientation is interesting since such father/mother theories have gone out the window. It's all about biology now. Unfortunately, science has forgotten culture, namely that before Christianity there were areas where exclusive heterosexuality did not reign supreme.

Most just go along with the heterosexuality. What sort of women they find attractive probably has some early childhood
influences, as everything else. Now, why are some of us attracted to men? It could be paternal bonding issues. For me, I just never really saw the logic in not being attracted to people with whom I had more in common (other men). In middle and high school, I was supposed to like all the things other guys like (check!) but not like those other guys. How does that make any sense? You shall like Activity A-Z, but NONE of the people who also like them, we have commanded even though you like your own penis but if they're attached to others it's evil to like them! Yeah, whatever. Girls (whose activities I'm not supposed to like) I am supposed to like exclusively. What??

#42

Open Board / Re: Now this is my idea of a G...

Last post by andkon - January 17, 2015, 10:28:47 PM

Is this it? http://encinoman.wikia.com/wiki/Cro-magnon_man

Maybe it's late, but I don't get it...

#43

Open Board / Now this is my idea of a Guero...

Last post by vincentdigrero - January 17, 2015, 07:21:57 AM

Thought I would inject a little humor to this post. Check out this link.

https://search.yahoo.com/search;_ylt=AuhBi8u8cPqqo029eR.CFyCbvZx4?fr=yfp-t-901-s&toggle=1&ilc=14&fp=1&cop=mss&ei=UTF-8&p=cro-magnon


Look through the series of pictures and you'll find an instructor pointing to an artist's conception. This is what I was mainly referring to.

#44

Open Board / Re: Introduction

Last post by vincentdigrero - January 15, 2015, 07:25:29 AM

1.We are masculine depending on the degree.

2.Those who hate the most are they ones who want the male-to-male encounter the most, even if it's just hanging out with the guys for a few brews.

This is a little story: once I knew a southern man who had been in construction all of this life. He was about 45 years old and loved buying drinks for me and talking. He knew the story on me, but he liked me for me. I liked him for him. I'm sure that in the past he had dabbled a bit with other men sexually, but our friendship had to do with mutual respect and admiration. Thanks for your input, Johan.

1. Who is we? And depending on WHAT degree?

2. That is not 100% true. Yes, some of those are bisexual, gay or mostly straight. The idea that homophobes are just simply gays or one of those is complete bullshit. I mean, if they were, then why would they be homophobic? Why would all of  them be against themselves? Where would this self-hatred come from?


This whole like begets like is true TO A DEGREE in personality development, but not 100%. I know of a gay man who had four brothers and was raised by a homophobic father who repeatedly put him down for his effeminate ways still end up as an effeminate gay man as an adult.

1. "We" I am referring to greros. I am masculine. The degree I'm referring to is how we exhibit our maleness in a social setting. There are the Arnold Schwarzneggars, the Brad Pitts, the Rock Hudsons, the Anderson Coopers, to name a few famous personalities I can think of. All of these have a masculine bearing but are different.

Thanks for your input!

#45

Open Board / In whose company do you feel t...

Last post by vincentdigrero - January 15, 2015, 07:12:03 AM

After having been basically raised in a very masculine setting by a very dominating father and two older brothers, I learned rather quickly that my life went better if I followed their examples. Meaning, that earlier as a child that my masculinity didn't seem to come naturally.  As a young adult having been in the military and working in some blue collar jobs with all men, my most comfort lied in my association with the so called working man (blue collar). I have worked in some white collar professional settings, but I've always been most at ease with the down-to-earth so called "working men."

I'm not a psychologist, but I'm wondering if my attraction to men in general stems from the fact that I didn't feel very loved by my father. Has any research been done on this?

What men are you most comfortable with?

#46

Open Board / Re: Introduction

Last post by andkon - January 15, 2015, 03:33:09 AM

2. That is not 100% true. Yes, some of those are bisexual, gay or mostly straight. The idea that homophobes are just simply gays or one of those is complete bullshit. I mean, if they were, then why would they be homophobic? Why would all of  them be against themselves? Where would this self-hatred come from?

It's called a reaction formation, it's an old concept in psychology: http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/women-who-stray/201405/reaction-formation-against-porn

#47

Open Board / Re: You’re Not Straight. You...

Last post by Johan - January 15, 2015, 02:23:05 AM

In my experience, everyone is straight until the lights go out :-)

Or everyone is not incestuous until the lights go out?

#48

Open Board / Re: Ian Thorpe

Last post by Johan - January 15, 2015, 02:21:22 AM

He has said that he is a gay man.

#49

Open Board / Re: Introduction

Last post by Johan - January 15, 2015, 02:16:18 AM

1.We are masculine depending on the degree.

2.Those who hate the most are they ones who want the male-to-male encounter the most, even if it's just hanging out with the guys for a few brews.

This is a little story: once I knew a southern man who had been in construction all of this life. He was about 45 years old and loved buying drinks for me and talking. He knew the story on me, but he liked me for me. I liked him for him. I'm sure that in the past he had dabbled a bit with other men sexually, but our friendship had to do with mutual respect and admiration. Thanks for your input, Johan.

1. Who is we? And depending on WHAT degree?

2. That is not 100% true. Yes, some of those are bisexual, gay or mostly straight. The idea that homophobes are just simply gays or one of those is complete bullshit. I mean, if they were, then why would they be homophobic? Why would all of  them be against themselves? Where would this self-hatred come from?


This whole like begets like is true TO A DEGREE in personality development, but not 100%. I know of a gay man who had four brothers and was raised by a homophobic father who repeatedly put him down for his effeminate ways still end up as an effeminate gay man as an adult.

#50

Open Board / Re: Greros, gays, and "others"...

Last post by Johan - January 15, 2015, 02:01:49 AM

It doesn't really matter. If you have a single area with a large bisexual potential, that shows that exclusive heterosexuality is not really genetic/hormonal/innate or anything but cultural.
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Exclusive heterosexuality or exclusive monosexuality?